President
Boyd K. Packer, President of the Quorum of the
Twelve Apostles
Speaking
at the Forest Bend Ward, Salt Lake City UT Sunday, October 12, 2008
“Even though I regularly have the
opportunity to attend Fast and Testimony meeting, I don’t
usually stand to speak. But today,
I feel moved upon by the Spirit to share a message…
Last weekend’s General Conference
was different than any before. We felt that down at Church Headquarters and have been talking
about it all week. We live in troubled times. There is great financial crisis and we’ve seen
something that hasn’t happened in the last 60 years: the world’s financial markets are collapsing.
I was six years old when the Great Depression began: the 10th of 11 children. My father was a
mechanic and times were difficult for all of us. Many families were suddenly out of work all at
once. There were large public projects to try and provide employment – like the great ditch
or canal I remember being dug here in our city. It was at least six feet deep and dug by hand,
with pick and ax. Nowadays, we’d use a piece of machinery to do it. But in those days, people
worked with what we had. They were desperate times for many. There were things as a child
that I didn’t understand and was afraid of. I didn’t like to go into the basement of our home. I
thought the Boogeyman lived there. But as I grew older and we got some lights down there, I
realized that the great dark space underneath the stairs was a large pile of old shoes. As a pair
of shoes we were wearing would wear out or break down, we didn’t throw them out. We would
use a shoe from that old pile as spare parts to repair our shoes or make new ones. It was just the
way you did things in those times.There’s a scripture that says “Yet
learn we obedience by the same things we suffer.” It seems sometimes that we don’t learn
until we need to turn and rely upon the Lord. In the Book of Mormon, well, if you looked in my
copy, in the Book of Helaman about chapter 12 or 13, you’d see that I’ve written-in a
swirling chain of circles across the top of the page. It might look like old cursive, but that’s not what
it’s meant to be. It’s meant to remind me of the cycles of the people. In times when they were
blessed with great prosperity and wealth, they forgot the Lord. Then when they fell to bad habits
which led some to wickedness and placed many in peril, the righteous would turn/return to the
Lord in their humbler circumstances. It’s a cycle of prosperity and wickedness we see repeated
over and over again in the scriptures and now again in our day. I remember once I went deer
hunting with Brother Tuttle and some others. We were up in the mountains, riding on horseback. He
went up one side of the canyon, and I went up the other. As I was riding, I bent over and
just nearly kissed the saddle horn as we passed a low cedar tree that was right by the path. Well
as we passed the cedar tree, there was no more path on the other side of it and the way before us
was just a dropping hillside covered with loose shaley rock. I kicked my feet clear of the
stirrups, just in case the horse reacted badly, and it was a good thing I did. She reared up and I was
thrown back. I hit my head on some rocks and got a cut right above my eyebrow that was bleeding
heavily. I’d been holding my rifle in my hand and as my hand flew back and hit heavily
against a rock, it broke as well. So I was laying there hurt and shaken. My companions on the other
side of the canyon had seen what happened and I heard Brother Tuttle call out “Are you
hurt?” I replied “Yes, I’m bleeding!” He called out again “Areyou hurt?” I called again “Yes,
I’m bleeding!”, but the wind was blowing the wrong way and they couldn’t hear me. The fourth
time this happened, I yelled in response “No!” And they called back “Okay!” and continued
to ride on up the mountain. That’s lesson one! I finally got myself up, caught my
horse down the mountain where she had gotten caught in some branches, and managed to get
into town where I was bandaged up and my hand was tended to. Shortly after that, I was traveling
on business and was at the airport. A fellow traveler, an older man not of our faith, saw my
bandaged hand and asked if I was all right. I replied rather offhandedly. And he responded that it was
something I would remember all the rest of my days. He then told me that he had once
worked at digging a canal – now that caught my attention because I remembered the canal I
have mentioned. He said that he was out of work at the time [the Great Depression] and
couldn’t find employment. He saw the canal being dug and knew that if he asked the foreman for a
job, he would be turned away. He saw a spare pick laying there, so he picked it up and
started working. A short while later, the foreman walked by and, not recognizing him, asked him
what he was doing. He explained to me that he told the foreman he was out of work and stated “I
need to work. You don’t have to pay me, but I need to work.” Well, as you might expect, they
worked things out and he was paid for his labors. We then proceeded to talk, this older fellow
and I, and I have remembered his counsel. Now I am the old man giving counsel to you. In the Great Depression, people
were frightened and growing more so. They began to be very resourceful. They had to be.
Looking forward, we’re all going to learn that lesson, one way or another.
The Church is in excellent
condition. You don’t need to worry about that. But as individuals we will face difficulty. Some will
come to the Bishop seeking financial aid and counsel. And as judges in Israel, the Bishop will
respond. The time for financial largess in our ward activities is over.” [President Packer then turned directly to our Bishop and counseled him
that last year’s youth
trip to Nauvoo, which was, President Packer said, a great opportunity for
testimonybuilding and
missionary work, will not happen again. Times of/for that sort of expense in
the Church
are past.]
President
Packer then shared experiences of providing aid and service after the great
Tsunami devastated
Indonesia. He recalled... “I was speaking on the phone with
a government minister who said “I’m standing in Banda
Aceh and you cannot imagine what I am seeing. A city of a million people has been swept away
and there is nothing.” A week later, I was
standing in area of Banda Aceh and the need was
immense. “What do you need?” I asked. “Body
bags” was the reply. So we found 20,000 body bags in China and had them on a plane the
next day. A call came, “we need 30
[thousand] more.” We found them and they were sent. The next call “do you have any
motorcycles? We need to get back into the mountain villages with aid and medical supplies, but
the roads are gone. Trucks can’t get through and elephants are too slow. If we had
motorcycles, we could get through.” “Are they to be found in Asia” I
asked. “Yes,” he said. So we found the motorcycles and had them on their way the next day.
The Church is sound and is able to
provide these types of aid as a back-up where there is need. We [as members and in our
individual wards] are the back-up position of the Church. Learn to apply the old Pioneer adage – “Eat
[use] it up. Wear it out. Make do, or do without.” We’re going to have to learn to do
without. Again, “Eat it up. Wear it out. Make do, or do without.” Even if we have the resources, we
need to do more to be thrifty. Others will rely on us. The Church will rely on us. It is our
responsibility and duty to be caring for ourselves, our family, and those around us. Be watching for need. Set something by
that we can be of help to others when the time comes. Trust in the
counsel of our wise elders/older people. There are nearly 60,000
missionaries serving throughout the world today. The cost to support a missionary is right about $400 a
month today. That’s $4,800 a year. Consider if we have the resources that there may be others
who don’t and who have a need. When Brother Tuttle was a young man, he had a strong desire
to serve a mission. But he didn’t have the money to pay for it, and his family didn’t have the
money for it. So Brother Tuttle thought of who was the richest man in his town and, after saying
a prayer, he approached him. A loan was made, a mission served, and the loan repaid. Those
who need our help may not always ask us. It’s about time the Lord taught us
a lesson. A great catastrophe is coming. Now I probably shouldn’t say that because then it
will happen. But it is going to
happen. That’s what it will take to turn our hearts to the Lord.
And we will learn from it.
Our prayers will be different,
less selfish. The scripture says “If ye are prepared, ye need not fear.” Renew your prayers. You can
[also] think a prayer. Carry a prayer in your heart throughout the day. Learn to pray
for that which is of worth. Another scripture says “…do not spend money for that which is of
no worth, nor your labor for that which cannot satisfy.” (2 Nephi 9:51) That can be applied
both spiritually [to prayer] and physically. Use what we have. If something is broken, fix it.
Our young people are going to see different times than what they are used to. To you teenagers,
your life will be different. Things are changing. You will have to do without some of the things you
are used to expecting. Don’t be afraid. Change your life to do without the extravagances and
luxuries that you’ve expected. Learn
to pray. There’s a difference between ‘saying prayers’
and praying. A wonderful time is coming – it’s not going to be
easy, and it’s not going to be short. But don’t be afraid. Brother Tuttle was one of the
Seventy when there were just seven of them. Now there are eight quorums of the Seventy called to
go throughout all the world. It’s an apostolic calling to teach the gospel to every nation, people
and tongue. They’ll know what to do and will lead and counsel where they are called. Take care of what we’ve got. Begin to save.
The rainy day is coming – in fact, the snowy day is already here [in reference to
today’s first winter snow]. Reset our expectations. Give up selfishness. Wickedness is all
around us. In today’s world, it’s not safe for children to be outside alone. We need to be ever
watchful. We need to protect ourselves from the wickedness, avarice, and greed in the world.
Read the scriptures and the
revelations. The guidance and counsel are there. Read with new eyes, and the scriptures, the Book
of Mormon, will take on new meaning. As President Bush and world
leaders gather in the coming week and the weeks ahead, there will be no easy answers or solutions.
Hard times are ahead and it’s difficult for them to see what to do. It’s important to listen to
the Spirit. We are led by prophets and apostles. We can see ahead. We can be and are prepared.
I pronounce upon you an Apostolic
blessing. Comfort our children. Little children can be afraid of things we might not think of.
Comfort them and strengthen our families. Turn off the television and focus on family.
Pay your tithing. The promise is there – pay your tithing and you’ll be watched over. You’ll be
alright. None of us is exempt from trials. If hard times come upon you and your income dwindles,
remember that tithing is equitable for everyone: 10%. If you have nothing, then it’s 10% of
practically nothing. Pay your tithing, do what you’re supposed to do. You’ll be
comforted. Sure trials will come. Because of
them, faith will increase. Happiness will increase. Security will increase. You’ll be glad to be
alive at this time. It’s a good time to be living. To be raising children. I leave this testimony,
counsel, and blessing with you in the holy name of Jesus Christ.
Amen.”
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